First Every Thing.

[Livin Green]

This is my first indoor set up, but i have a bit working for me(least i hope) i grew up with on outdoor garden, and in the past my father dabbled in green housing.
this is my current set up.


i have 1. 400 watt Mh running at 24hr.
6'' inline with carbon filter

Just bought a humidifier that is running cool steam keeping it right now at 40-45 humidity.
i recently met a mmj patient here in town, and was gracious enough to supply me with 14 clones.
2 strains.
1 is named CHEMO, the story is this strain was developed for chemo patients(hence the name)
it is a 50\50 sativa\indaca

the next is one called Medusa.
not to sure of the history of this plant, we got a little distracted


so far all clones look healthy(but i did only get them today.), i have a small fan keeping an ever so light breeze on them and a cd player with a volume of the folk years on loop.

i have them in a mixture of soil he used(black and gold) and some that i purchased from my local shop called "ready grow" mix of coconut husks, worm castings, compost, seaweed extract.
very small amount of nutes show them the bottle kind of deal, trying to keep them on the schedule they are used to.

looking forward to the weeks to come, any input is MORE THAN WELCOME,
be mean get down and dirty i don't care.
cant do anything but help learn more.



Lg



The first 3 plant pics are chemo. and the last is Medusa.
little deal next to the tub is my humidifier.

right now the light is about 2' above the plants.

[Livin Green]

Been about 4 days now, started seeing the tips start going yellow, curl up a little, thought i may have started to give them a nute burn(being im a noob and thats what we do )
i have a few types of clones some that were taken off the top and some off the lower branches.
the ones that are off the lower parts don't seem to be bothered as bad but are starting to show slight discoloration.
and the ones that are affected most are the clones taken from the tops of the plant.

I read that it is common for the lower cutting to be more hearty and "motivated" and the tops are more "spoiled" and will take longer is there truth to this?

I kept the few that were worse to strait water but it continued, so i went out today and picked up a water ph test kit and soil ph and nutrient test kit.
again waiting this long was a mistake.
my tap water ph'd around 9.0
WOW !!!! took it down to 7.0-7.5 using ph down bought at northwest seed and pet from there aquarium section.
Just did a nice water not to heavy but hopefully enough to flush them. i will post pics later.
right now they are still on their aggressive grow schedule 24hr light, and plan on taking them down to 20 on 4 off next week on Tuesday, marking the one week period from when i got them.

again any feed back is welcome and encouraged
if i'm doing any thing wrong i don't want to go down the wrong path for to long.

Lg

Livin',

Sounds like you have a good start.

As for the water, I would set a bucket out in the rain and collect a few gallons, for plant use only.

If you plant to use tap water, fill a container and let it sit for 24 hrs. before you use it, to allow any chlorene to evaporate (if it's in there.).

You pH for the plants should be down around 6.2-6.7. Having it at 7.5 is too high and can lock-out the plants from getting magnesium, etc. I pH all my feed water (with nutes or without) to 6.2-6.4, and the plants seem to do very well there.

BTW, if you just got clones, they get -0- nutes till you know they are established well (rooted) and can handle it. Water only for the first 2 or 3 feedings.

ISO

[Johnny Pot Seed]

I don't think I'd be using that PH down, or that water either. You need to get an R/o unit, or use distilled or bottled spring water. There is a reason the PH is so high, and whatever that reason is THAT is what's killing your plants. Whatever nutrients you add in will be locked out because of the other chemicals in your water. The R/O unit will lower your PH to roughly 7, and then you can bring it down to 6.5 using lemon or lime juice (I wouldn't use fish tank PH Down for the plants). Make sure to add nutrients first, check PH, and adjust IF necessary.

Are these pre-rooted clones, or just cuttings you are trying to root? If they are cuttings then use only PH'ed water, no nutrients.

[Johnny Pot Seed]

ISO beat me to it. Yes rain water is good too, though it could bring unwanted visitors.

[indica]

it looks like your off to a good start some good strains good luck with your

first indoor grow it's good to have friends

[Livin Green]

They were pre-rooted clones.
and yes chlorine is present. was just told that trick earlier today about letting the water set out.

ill pick up some distilled water as soon as i can.

i was told the ph up and down was for general ph in any situation. and would not affect the plants? but to be safe i will probably just flush the plants with distilled water. and add one thing at a time from there.

what are your thoughts about adding bat quano to the soil. pre-mix it in the soil right before the step up to bigger pots? i have never used but have heard great things.
also i was planning later on to supplement my water with silica blast a silicon bast product, to boost cell strength for natural pest repellent and a little more resistant to any fluctuation in temp. any experience ?

Iso.

thank you,
i was reading over the grow guide you have, and it was a toss up between a nute burn and a mag def. and i went with nute burn but i didn't think my water was that out of wak.

yes friends are great thank you all.

Lg

[Livin Green]

Quick update.

went out got the distilled water ph'd at 5, added 1 tsp of epsom salt to one gallon water let rest, did a nice watering, ( being that there under 24hr light you do every thing twice as much)

and i was just informed that those are not chemo plants, they are blackberry
and they are very good from what i am told,
i can not attest to any of it, but do trust the source.

thank you again for the advice.

Lg.

[Johnny Pot Seed]

Blackberry rocks! It's yield is on the lower side (just a little bit) but it's very good meds.

[Johnny Pot Seed]

Originally Posted by Livin Green

i was told the ph up and down was for general ph in any situation. and would not affect the plants? but to be safe i will probably just flush the plants with distilled water. and add one thing at a time from there.

what are your thoughts about adding bat quano to the soil. pre-mix it in the soil right before the step up to bigger pots? i have never used but have heard great things.
also i was planning later on to supplement my water with silica blast a silicon bast product, to boost cell strength for natural pest repellent and a little more resistant to any fluctuation in temp. any experience ?

Lg

The PH up and down are probably okay but it's very unusual to use fish tank products for that purpose, I just don't know anyone who's ever done it. Guano is great! But can be very different type by type and doses will change based upon the nutrient availability. Another great source of nitrogen is used coffee grounds (I think the plants like the caffeine too). Either one can be added globally into the soil mix like you were wanting to do and they will help almost any nutrient program (unlike most organics which are best not to mix with chemical nutrients). Just be careful cause too much can burn the plants. Try 1 tbs per gallon of soil.